Bei einem Grand oder Farbspiel darf der Spieler einen Ouvert aber nur ansagen, wenn er den Skat zuvor nicht aufgenommen hat und gleichzeitig sagt er dabei. Der Alleinspieler lässt den Skat unbesehen liegen und tauft sein Spiel "Grand, Schneider angesagt". Obwohl die Gegenspieler nur 15 Augen bekommen. Beim Grand Ouvert darf man den Skat nicht aufnehmen und muss die Karten offen hinlegen. Das Spiel muss schwarz gewonnen werden, d.h. man darf keinen.
Grand (Skat)Nein, das seltenste Spiel im Skat ist nicht der Grand Ouvert. Ich persönlich hatte bereits das Glück, vier Grand Ouverts zu haben (einen. Der Grand Hand Ouvert ist das höchste Spiel beim Skat. Er wird genauso gespielt wie ein Grand Hand Schwarz. Der Grand Ouvert ist das teuerste und seltenste Spiel beim Skat. NÄCHSTES TURNIER. Uhr.
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Deutsch Edit links. The Allgemeine Deutsche Skatordnung "General German Skat Regulations" are agreed. No association is founded because there is no agreement over the Altenburg suit bidding system Altenburger Farbenreizen and Leipzig point bidding Leipziger Zahlenreizen.
The German Skat Associations is founded. Head office in Altenburg. Suit bidding is officially recognised. Point bidding remains an alternative. The Deutsche Skatzeitung "German Skat Paper" is founded as the official magazine.
A statute formulated by Artur Schubert is adopted. There is no agreement on the pack to be used. The Allgemeine Deutsche Skatordnung by Artur Schubert is accepted as 'provisionally valid'.
Neither the bidding issue nor the question of the pack to be used are decided. A prize is announced. The aim is to find a compromise between suit and point bidding.
Nevertheless, no acceptable compromise is found. The majority of the board insists on suit bidding. The members favour point bidding.
No compromise can be found. The originally planned 11th Congress is cancelled because there is no agreement over bidding.
The outbreak of the First World War prevents further discussions for the time being. Point bidding prevails.
A committee is formed for disputes, which is the nucleus of the German Skat Court. Null games are given the game values still valid today.
The basic value of Grand is set at Grand Ouvert is given a basic value of Lost hand games are not penalized, i. In open contracts, all ten cards must be shown immediately.
According to a suggestion by Otto Seeger, each game won is rewarded with a bonus of 50 points in addition to the game value. Although the congress takes place in the western part of the divided Germany, Erich Fuchs, the former president of the congress in East Germany , is confirmed in office.
For the time being, the executive committee remains in Altenburg in East Germany. In , Fuchs leaves for the west.
The seat of the association also moves to the West. Between and the headquarters of the German Skat Association is in Bielefeld. The German Skat Association registers in the Register of Associations of the Federal Republic of Germany.
Only Jacks are trumps. They form a fifth suit of four cards only, such that the lead of a Jack requires Jacks to be played if possible.
The other 28 cards rank A10KQ in each suit. An undertaking to lose every trick. There is no trump, and cards rank AKQJ in every suit.
Any of these games may be undertaken in either of two ways: With the skat: The soloist adds the skat to his hand and makes any two discards before announcing trumps, grand, or null.
From the hand: The soloist plays with the hand as dealt and announces his game immediately. He does not look at the skat until after the last trick.
Either way, any card-points contained in the skat count for the soloist as if he had won them in tricks. Game values The value of a game contract is not the number of card-points you may take in tricks but the score you will get if you become the soloist and make your contract.
Whoever bids to play the game of highest value becomes the soloist. Before you can bid sensibly, you must first learn how to evaluate the game that you wish to play.
Except for nulls, which have fixed values, game contracts are evaluated in the following way. Trump games suit or grand are valued by taking the base value of the suit selected as trump and multiplying this by a number of additional factors which might as well be called multipliers.
If you hold J, then you are playing "with" as many tops as you hold. For example, holding J but not J, you are "with one". If you hold J and J, but not J, then you are "with two".
And so on, up to a maximum of "with 11" in a suit game, or "with four" at grand. Note: Although you physically hold only 10 cards, you can be with or without 11 because the two cards in the skat count as part of your holding.
If you do not hold J, then you are playing "without" or "against" as many tops as lie above the highest trump you do hold. For example, if your highest trump is the J, you are "without one".
If it is J, you are "without two". If it is the trump Ten, you are "without five", as you lack four Jacks and the Ace. The pack consists of 32 cards.
Some players in Eastern and Southern Germany and Austria prefer traditional German packs with suits of acorns , leaves , hearts and bells , and card values of deuce Daus , king König , Ober , Unter , 10, 9, 8, and 7 in all four suits.
By contrast, regions of the former West Germany had adopted a French-suited pack. At the beginning of each round each player is dealt ten cards, with the two remaining cards the so-called Skat being put face down in the middle of the table.
Dealing follows this pattern: deal three cards each, then deal the Skat , then four cards each, then three cards again "three— Skat —four—three".
In four-player rounds, the dealer does not receive any cards and skips actual play of the round. He or she may peek into the hand of one other player if allowed to do so but never into the Skat.
Dealing rotates clockwise around the table, so that the player sitting to the left of the dealer will be dealer for the next round. After the cards have been dealt, and before the deal is played out, a bidding or auction German : Reizen is held to decide:.
The goal for each player during the bidding is to bid a game value as high as their card holding would allow, but never higher than necessary to win the bidding.
How the actual game value is determined is explained in detail below and is necessary to understand in order to know how high one can safely bid.
It is possible for a player to overbid, which leads to an automatic loss of the game in question. Often this does not become obvious before the player picks up the Skat , or even not before the end of the game in question in case of a hand game, when the Skat is not picked up.
Players have therefore to exercise careful scrutiny during bidding, as not to incur an unnecessary loss. The bidding may also give away some information about what cards a player may or may not hold.
Experienced players will be able to use this to their advantage. The game value also called hand value , German : Spielwert is what the game will be worth after all tricks have been played.
It is determined not only by the 10 cards held, but also by the two-card Skat. The Skat always belongs to the declarer, and if it contains certain high cards this may change the game value.
It is therefore not possible in general to determine the exact game value before knowing the Skat. The game value is determined by the type of the game and the game level as explained below for the suit, grand and null games.
In a suit game German : Farbspiel , one of the four suits is the trump suit. Each suit has a base value German : Grundwert , as follows:.
This base value is then multiplied by the multiplier game level German : Spielstufe or Gewinngrad to determine the game value, so:.
The multiplier game level of 1 for becoming declarer is always assumed. It is then increased by one for each of the following:.
In case of a Hand game declarer does not pick up the Skat , the following special cases are allowed. Each one increases the multiplier game level by another point:.
Cards in the trump suit are ordered as follows this is important to know when counting the length of the matador's jack straight :. The non-trump suit cards are ranked AK-Q or AK-O for the German pack respectively.
As mentioned above, the cards in the Skat are to be included when determining the multiplier game level also in case of the Hand game, where the Skat is unknown until after the deal has been played out.
During bidding, each player therefore has incomplete information regarding the true game value. The final game value is calculated by multiplying the base value for the suit by the multiplier game level:.
Grand game is a special case of suit game, in which only the Jacks are trumps in the same order as in the suit game:.
The base value for the grand game is 24 in the official rules. It used to be 20 until , and many hobbyists continued to use 20 well into the postwar era.
All other rules for determining game value are as in a suit game, that is, the base value of 24 is multiplied by the multiplier game level.
In the null game, declarer promises not to take any tricks at all. There is no trump suit, 10s are sorted directly above 9s, and jacks are treated as normal suit cards sorted between 10 and queen.
Thus the cards are ordered: A-K-Q-J The game values of null games are fixed, as follows:. The following examples give a player's holding and the contents of the Skat which will be unknown to all players during the bidding and explain how to derive the game value.
The multiplier game level will be 2 1 for matador's jack straight plus 1 for becoming declarer. Note that game value is dependent not only on the cards held including the Skat but also on which game is being declared and the outcome of the play.
Each holding can thus be evaluated differently by different players. A risk-taking player might be willing to declare Hand on a holding on which another player might not — these two players will therefore give different valuations to the same holding.
However, after all tricks have been played, it is always possible to determine the exact game value by combining the actual holding with the type of game and outcome of the play.
Only then it becomes apparent if declarer has won or lost if he overbid. Assuming a trump suit of hearts in a suit game, this holding will have a different valuation before and after the Skat has been examined.
With Hearts as trump, the game value will always be at least that much. Now, assuming declarer wins by taking 95 points in tricks, after having declared Hand and Schneider , the actual game value will be as follows:.
The player could have bid up to that value during the bidding. Now for the special cases: if you think you can do more than just win, you can add points for the special cases.
The highest possible multiplier game level is that is with or without four jacks and all seven cards of trump suit including those in the Skat , if any 11, plus the maximum of 7 for becoming declarer, Hand , Schneider , declaring Schneider , Schwarz , declaring Schwarz and Ouvert.
The order of bidding is determined by the seating order. Starting from the left of the dealer players are numbered clockwise: the first seat German : Vorhand , the second seat German : Mittelhand and the third seat German : Hinterhand.
In a three-player game, the dealer will be the third seat. In a four-player game the third seat will be to the right of the dealer. Bidding starts by the player in second seat making a call to the player in first seat on which the latter can hold or pass.
If the first seat player holds, the second seat player can make a higher call or pass himself. This continues until either of the two players passes.
The player in third seat is then allowed to continue making calls to the player who has not yet passed.
Hat man alle vier Buben, ist ein Grand ratsam, wenn man die passenden hohen Farbwerte auf der Hand hält.
In beiden Beispielen wird davon ausgegangen, dass der Solospieler in Vorderhand sitzt also das Aufspiel hat , damit die Beispiele nicht zu komplex werden.
Ein Grandspiel aus Mittel- oder Hinterhand sollte man nur antreten, wenn man mindestens zwei oder mehr Farben sicher stechen kann, die höchsten Buben hat und nicht auf zwei oder mehr Farben bedienen muss.
Bei diesem Spiel könnte der Solospieler mit dem Kreuz-Buben rauskommen und, wenn er Glück hat, bereits beide Buben der Gegenspieler ziehen.
Falls nicht, spielt er noch den Pik-Buben auf. Danach spielt er seine Herz-Serie, dann seine beiden Pik.
Die Karo-Sieben am Ende wird er wahrscheinlich verlieren, das Spiel allerdings Schneider gewinnen. Hier hat der Solospieler eine hohe Chance zu gewinnen.
Er kann mit der Herz-Sieben rauskommen und hoffen, dass die Gegner das Herz-Ass und die Herz-Zehn ziehen das Rauskommen mit der Herz-Sieben empfiehlt sich natürlich nur, wenn man genug Buben bzw.
Damit könnte der Solospieler, wenn die beiden Gegner gefuchst sind, drei Herzstiche verlieren, und, wenn die anderen hohen Fehlfarben im unpassenden Gegnerblatt sitzen, das Spiel verlieren [1.